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Discussion in 'SDT Requests' started by stuntcock, Nov 27, 2015.

  1. stuntcock

    stuntcock Club Regular Staff Member Moderator

    Jun 5, 2012
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    What is a Request?
    • A Request thread is an appeal for a specific hairstyle or clothing item to be be packaged into a new mod, and thereby made available for SDT gameplay.
    • The thread should reflect the preparatory work which you've done before posting it. Lazy or sloppy threads tend to be ignored by the community; such requests will remain unfulfilled.
    • Upon opening your Request thread, an artist or modder should be presented with everything they need in order to begin work.
    • You are allowed to include several characters or items in a single Request thread, so long as they all come from the same source material (e.g. anime series) and you have provided adequate reference material for each element.
    • Your Request cannot be fulfilled until someone chooses to volunteer their talent and free time to your project.
      • That "someone" can be you. There are useful tutorials and guides available on the forums. Many of our senior modders will happily offer mentorship support to a sincere novice.
      • SDT modders will tend to look more favorably upon requests made by a member of the forum community, than upon those of a stranger. Get involved!

    What a Request is NOT
    • An appeal for technical support. "Hey guys I installed a bunch of mods and now my FPS has fallen to 5." Post on the Help board.
    • An appeal for assistance in finding something. "Hey guys I'm pretty sure there's a mod that does doggystyle but I don't know where it is." Use the Search tool.
    • An appeal for new features. "Hey guys I'd like to be able to squeeze the girl's boobs by double-clicking on them." Post on the Loader Request board.
    • An expression of interest in a topic. "Hey guys the new Zelda game has some cute girls, has anyone thought about adding them to SDT?" Do the prep work, find reference images, and post a proper Request thread.
    • An open-ended fishing expedition. "Hey guys it would be pretty cool if you added more clothes to the game." Choose a specific item, find images, and post a proper Request thread.
    • Revenge porn. "Hey guys I'm stalking this girl at school. Here's a creepshot. Could you put her face in the game and make her suck dick?" Asking for real people is against the website rules.
    • A repost. "Hey guys I asked for Zelda hair a week ago and nobody made one, so let's try this again." Duplicate threads are not allowed. Improve your original thread, or just be patient.

    Respect the artists
    • Your request thread must include Reference Images. These images show the artist what the character or item looks like when viewed from the side.
      • Some TV shows use a visual style which doesn't match the style of SDT (such as the flat colors of Rick and Morty, or the masked layers of Gankutsuou). Screenshots from 3d videogames tend to include smooth color gradients instead of three-tone shading. Photographs are terrible references unless you're asking for a photorealistic mod (click here for explanation).
      • When you submit a non-standard reference image, you force the artist to put in additional work. They must creatively re-interpret the image so that it fits the visual style of SDT.
      • If your image has a non-standard camera angle then the artist must work harder to correct its orientation and perspective.
      • You may include non-standard images, but you must try to find anime-style fanart as well. If you fail to do so then your Request will be much more difficult to fulfill; it will probably just be ignored.
        • Please sort your images so that the most usable ones (i.e. anime-style side views) appear at the top of each list.
    • If you're requesting more than one character or item, then please organize your Reference images into separate lists, with the name of the character (or item) preceding their images.
      • You are encouraged to use Spoiler tags - they help keep things tidy.
    • Please don't extend your Request to include additional characters or costumes after work has begun. This is greedy, and it tends to annoy artists (because it denies them the satisfaction of actually completing a Request).
    • Do not abuse the username-tagging system in order to "call out" an artist, unless you've already discussed it with them and they've agreed to work on it.
      • Aside from pestering the artist, you're also screwing yourself. Apprentice modders aren't going to work on your request if they think that @dantethedarkprince is already on the case.

    Prepare yourself
    • Before posting a Request thread, you must check the Archive and search the forum.
    • Hairstyle requests are assumed to be PNG by default.
      • If you want an SWF file then you must familiarize yourself with the background material and explain why your hair design requires special treatment.
    • Before posting a costume Request thread, you should be familiar with the gameplay of SDT and the configuration options that it provides.
      • If you're asking for a set of gloves, then we need various camera angles so that we can draw them in open-palm, clenched-fist, and handjob modes.
      • If you're asking for a Bra or Top, then tell us how it ought to interact with the breast slider.
      • If you're asking for a bodysuit, then let us know whether it should be possible to equip the top half and bottom half separately.
      • If you want the new clothing item(s) to fit a non-standard bodymod, then you must say so explicitly and tell us which one.
    • Your reference images should be uploaded to a dedicated imagehost (such as imgur or postimage).
      • The forum attachment system can be used for reference images, but this is heavily discouraged (because it wastes disk space, and because you guys always forget to remove your images afterwards). Unless you have a very good reason for using the attachment system, I'll just move your references to offsite hosting.
      • Hotlinking is a bad idea. If you're looking at an imageboard then just provide a link to the post itself. If you're looking at DeviantArt then link to the submission. If you've found something via Google Image Search then don't link it directly - rehost it on a proper imagehost instead.

    Don't waste my time
    • Search the forum before posting a new thread.
    • Search the thread (Ctrl+F) before replying.
    • Avoid bitmaps. Use PNG or JPG formats for your images.
    • When you're including a character name in your post, please use the complete name.
      • The Search tool doesn't care about surname precedence, so neither do I. "Homura Akemi" is acceptable. "Akemi Homura" is also acceptable.
      • The Search tool doesn't understand fan nicknames, so don't use them. "Homerun-chan" is not acceptable.
    • If the item already exists but it shows low visual quality or poor workmanship (which is sadly true of many items in the Archive) then please setup a Revision thread instead of a new Request.
    • Avoid cliché phrases. "I'm surprised that nobody has asked for this yet" is irritating. "I'll be super grateful to anyone who makes this" is often insincere. "I'd do it myself if I knew how" tells me that you're too lazy to read the tutorials, or that you're unwilling to learn a new skill.
    • Your thread title should clearly identify the source material (if applicable). If it's a solo request then the title should also include the character name. If you're asking for the whole cast then please don't try to squeeze thirteen names into your title; just call it "DBZ Girls" or "Sailor Moon Request" or whatever.
    • If your request includes a costume then please say so in the title. "Cowboy Bebop: Faye Hair and Costume" is fine; so is "One Piece - Nami Outfit".
    • You may add tags to your thread.
      • This is not mandatory; please feel free to skip it.
      • If you do choose to include tags then please follow the guidelines.

    • Don't create a half-assed Request thread and assume that other people will reply with usable reference images. Your thread will be exiled; your Request will go unfulfilled; you will not get what you've asked for.
    • If you're replying to a Request thread, then you must make some kind of useful contribution.
      • Perhaps it's an additional reference image, or a suitable background image, or a set of vectors, or a partial charCode.
      • It could be a scope increase - adding another character or costume from the same source material. Remember that you must provide usable references when doing this!
      • It could be a response to an artist's question, or constructive criticism of the work done so far.
      • It might be a Youtube link showing the character in battle, to demonstrate how her hair and/or skirt should be animated.
      • If you intend to work on a Request, then you may post in the thread to say so. I'd prefer for your first reply to include a WIP screenshot, but a simple "dibs!" post is okay so long as it's sincere.
      • Anyone can post in a thread to complain about broken links, or to provide an alternate download link if the original is broken.
      • Anyone can point out that the thread is a duplicate and ask for it to be merged. Anyone can provide links to existing mods which the first poster overlooked when creating the thread.
      • If you have participated in a thread and it has recently been completed, then feel free to offer kind sentiments to any artists or modders who have worked on it. Please don't necrobump a thread merely to say "Thanks."
    • If you want to express support for a thread but you don't have anything specific to contribute, then just click the Like button.
    • If you simply want to keep track of any developments, then use the "Watch Thread" button.
    • Do not post in a thread merely to voice your support. Similarly: do not post merely to bump the thread.
    • If you're annoyed by the lack of progress, then you can take initiative and vector-trace the reference artwork on your own. This is a crucial step in the creation of SWF mods and it can jump-start a stalled Request thread.

    Be specific
    • Your Request must identify any pre-existing content, and explain why it is inapplicable. Don't assume that everyone visiting the thread is a fan of the series who will instantly recognize the differences.
      • "The long-hair version of this girl has been made by Dante, but I'm looking for her short hairstyle from Season 3. See reference images for details."
    • Spoilers are okay! The purpose of a request thread is to provide an SDT artist with useful images and information so that they can do their work.
      • If there's a really good reference image available, but you refrain from posting it because it would reveal a plot twist or a character's secret identity, then you have fucked up.
    • Artists and modders usually want to walk away from a Request thread with the sense that they've accomplished something and fulfilled someone's expectations.
      • If your references are inconsistent and your expectations are vague, then it's hard to fulfill them. Your Request is less likely to receive attention from modders.
    • Tell us what you actually want. Please don't include wishy-washy upgrade appeals. "I'm just looking for a quick PNG hairstyle, but I won't complain if you decide to make a dynamic SWF and a custom outfit!"
      • Congratulations, dumbass. You've just alienated many PNG artists, who will refrain from working on your Request because they're worried about being one-upped by a SWF modder. Meanwhile the SWF modders will ignore you because you asked for a simple PNG.
    • Text is okay! You must supply reference images, and a Request thread with perfect images doesn't really need much explanation. Nonetheless, you can supplement your images with writing - if you want to.
      • You might include a paragraph to explain any visual inconsistencies among your reference images.
      • You can ask for specific color variants or RGB-shifting features.
      • You can identify your favorite Loader mods and ask that the new mod include support/compatibility for them.
      • You can point to existing hair or costume mods, and mention various aspects which you'd like modders to imitate (or avoid) while working on your Request.

    Don't show off your character
    • Many requesters assume that they need to impress viewers, in order to attract interest to the Request. Their images show the character making cute poses, or performing acrobatic stunts, or engaged in crazy sex acts. Such images are neat to look at, but they're usually not useful to artists and modders.
    • Good reference images tend to be boring and unsexy.
      • If you're asking for a hairstyle, then the standard reference image is an anime screenshot in which the character is standing still and talking to someone beside her.
      • If you're asking for a costume, then the standard reference is a few screenshots in which the character walks around. A single standing screenshot is insufficient, because the arms will always block part of the costume. Seated or kneeling images may also be useful, depending on the size and shape of the costume.
    • If you've already included the "proper" reference images then you may add sexy or action-packed images if you really want to. Please put the side-view references at the TOP of each list.
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2015
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