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UPDATE 12-24-16 Real Horse Cock v1.01 (Happy Holidays!)

Discussion in 'Loader Imports' started by lemurian-seed, May 5, 2016.

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Have you tried it? What did you think?

  1. +1 -- I want to see more species, (leave comment what)

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  2. +1 -- Mmm, sweet horse cock. Yeahhhh

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  3. 0 -- I think the design is weird, because x,y,z (leave comment what)

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  4. -1 -- wtf (fuck you, leave comment what)

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  5. +1 -- Doggy Style?? Nice :D

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  1. lemurian-seed

    lemurian-seed Content Creator

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    Yeah, I can make more. Still working out some kinks on transferring the Hue-Shift to other mods. Speaking of which, it would have to be a new mod, rather than a tweak-addition to the game itself. Which one? I guess I can just do both. But they will all be separate until I can figure out a way to package them together into one mod.
     
  2. aztlan

    aztlan Swell Supporter

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    From my POV a new mod is great, preferable in fact (for me) to a tweak to the existing one.
     
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  3. lemurian-seed

    lemurian-seed Content Creator

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    Hay guise, I hated looking at the head of that supposed "horse" cock I had originally drawn. So, I totally redrew the glans and overhauled the whole thing to bring it up to par with my newer Canine mod. It is now RGBA-adjustable in the Loader tab in-game! Updated main post preview, check the download page for the new package! Happy Holidaze and a fappy new year to all <3
     
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  4. Fraktured

    Fraktured Potential Patron

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    New Update works Great! The flesh specific hue change makes this absaloutly perfect and Great job with the head. But your new Readme File is incorect, it tells you to paste "sdt-RealHorseCock-v0.91-LS.mod" into the Mods.txt file, when it should say "sdt-RealHorseCock-v1.01-LS.mod" Hardly an issue I know, But for any newbies about it's a pitfall that I imagine could cause some confusion.

    Great work though.
     
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  5. lemurian-seed

    lemurian-seed Content Creator

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    Oh damnit, thanks for catching that...gonna fix it right now!!

    Aaaand....done. Phew...only 76 poor unknown souls to account for. :grin:

    Thanks for the words, glad you like it. Enjoi~
     
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  6. That guy

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    Hi. First I'm a Long time lurker and this is my first comment, Second I really like your work and would like to ask for a Dragon Penis
    like one of those Bad Dragon Dildos. If you Need references just tell me. I will see what I can find. I'm german by the way so sorry my english is not so good. Merry Christmas everbody :)
     
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  7. lemurian-seed

    lemurian-seed Content Creator

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    Hey you that guy you! welcome to Undertow, your request sounds great. B.D. has excellent specimens to work with. Please PM me a few examples/names/links of which ones you have in mind to model it after. And any relevant favorite hentai art that you know of as well :)

    Also, don't sweat it on your language skills. As far as I can tell, you write English very well!
     
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  8. That guy

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    Thanks. I'm not sure what PM means but back to work. For the Dragon dick I think Clayton the Earth Dragon is a good start.
    Here is a Picture of it although I'm not sure if it is good since it is all black.
    http://assets.bad-dragon.com/images/inventorytoys/ClaytonOnyxBlack_stock.JPG
    As far as hentai art goes I don't know of any but the Hentai ''Princess Knight Catue'' as some Scenes with Dragon having fun with humans.
     
  9. fleet

    fleet Staff Member Moderator

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    PM means 'private message'. At undertow, it's specifically called a private conversation.
     
  10. lemurian-seed

    lemurian-seed Content Creator

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    Awesome that's okay, knowing the name of the ones you like is a great place for me to start. Bad Dragon usually has many different reference shots for each kind. I have used their models before as references to make my other two mods :grin:

    Were there any other dragons of theirs you liked? Or any visual element, really. I can splice in things from other species to make it just-right.

    I'll check the PKC hentai out too, thanks for replying! And yes, as fleet mentioned, a PM is a private message, my apologies for assuming you would know that. I take English for granted sometimes. :oops:
     
  11. That guy

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    No Problem thanks to you for letting me know what PM means and to Fleet aswell. There are actually two more that I find interesting.
    First: Nova the Breeder http://assets.bad-dragon.com/images/inventorytoys/d0d8d294f75b8b235c01ed8f4cb58dd1.JPG
    Second: Elden the Faerie Dragon http://assets.bad-dragon.com/images/inventorytoys/3340c34a7e6eb5e9dea8f3a2ded5327b.JPG
    As for visual elements some small Spikes or bumps just undneath the head may be nice though I'm not sure if this would look so good.
    Anyway you are the creator so lastly it is you who decides what is possible.
     
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  12. Woo Bee

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    Excellent models, lemurian-seed! I gave the horsecock a quick run and now I'm really looking forward to setting up a Draenei futa x futa scene. My only (minor) complaint is that the lipstick smearing isn't perfect (i.e., the frontmost and topmost tips never get any color on them, which disrupts the effect):

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    If you're doing further edits on it, I would also add that most horsecocks I'm seeing contemporary artists draw are frequently nearly flat on the front, and I tend to prefer that over your considerably pointier depiction. Nyuunzi gets pretty close to my ideal here:

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    If you're into *WARNING* docking *WARNING* and can tolerate SFM loops, I also quite like ItsMorti's take.

    If this is the appropriate place to make further requests, I have a couple for you. I second the "dragon" idea (and Bad Dragon is definitely the place to look for inspiration there), but as I've been fixated on Peach since discovering SDT a few days ago, I'm forced to ask: What the heck is Bowser, anyway? If he's some kind of spiky turtle/dragon thing, maybe he qualifies for this category? Long-absent dantethedarkprince made a Bowser skin that resides in his first archive (direct DL here), but (unlike the vast majority of his work) Dante's Bowser does nothing for me. I can't say I've spent a lot of time imagining what Bowser's wang looks like, but this is not it:

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    One of my favorite adult comics is WitchKing00's "Princess Peach in: Help Me Mario!", in which he imagines what goes on in the final castle during all of Mario's adventures. Someone who is more of a pirate than me uploaded the whole thing on Imgur; you can buy it here. Granted, it's tapered too much as per WitchKing00's exaggerated style, but THAT looks more like a spiky turtle/dragon's penis:

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    Remember that Dante helpfully insisted that all future SDT modders rip his work apart, reuse everything, and not even bother to credit him, and the actual body of Bowser is perfectly acceptable; if I knew what I was doing with either art or SDT modding, I'd be thinking about grafting a better penis onto Dante's model.

    A separate but related request: Is it too much to ask for even a vanilla human penis that actually scales? I've scoured this board, increasingly surprised this need has never been met, but sadly you seem to be about the only one doing penis mods. I'm a huge fan of preposterously huge dicks in my adult artwork, but despite the fact that the premise itself is absurd, when I push SDT up to its limits, the fact that this ~27" penis looks stretched out and "unreal" kills what would otherwise satisfy a major fetish of mine:

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    Want to be my hero, lemurian-seed? All you need to do is make a "realistic-looking" human megacock that scales to insane degrees, graft a bumpy, pleasantly-scaling WitchKing00-style dick onto Dante's Bowser, and maybe think about shaving the edges off your horsecock! Easy, right? :grin:
     
  13. lemurian-seed

    lemurian-seed Content Creator

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    Thanks for pointing that out and providing an example. (In fact thank you entirely for your very well-formatted post. The OCD/ADD part of my brain thoroughly appreciates it.) I don't personally use the smearing lipstick effect in-game so I have little understanding of its visual impact. I will attempt to fix this!

    Also thank you for your constructive and detailed notes. As for all the rest...
    Firstly, I fully intend to maintain the bulb of the glans in the artwork as that is part of the anatomy. It's called Real Horse Cock for a reason, or at least an artistic intent :P

    Secondly,
    Our main problem is in how SDT and flash in general scales sprites/artwork. This touches on your primary request for an effective hyper-endowment. When drawn, scaling must be taken into account. At present, SDT has a *fixed* art style in certain elements, especially with respect to color blocking and Outlines. In order to make a penis mod that looks proper at higher scales, the artwork would have to be thinner and stumpier, making it look squished and overtly 2-dimensional at more normal cock-scales.

    So the problem for me, is in how to balance it so that a mod is as widely useable as possible. I have to put in a fairly stupid bit of effort for these to come out the way I want, and I am not willing to create anything that doesn't measure up to my standards, i.e. for a mod that only a few people will download. Moreover, as you said yourself you are pushing the sliders to their limits, and if you're using sby's penisrange mod then its already pushed to breaking limit of the game's mechanics. I can't do anything about jaw-rip at that level. I don't even know if the lip bounding code I've baked into the mod works at sizes you're talking about! lol. Not to mention how buggy animtools positions are with cocks that long...I digress.

    I appreciate your enthusiasm for a hyper-cock, but I'm not sure it's approachable yet given my skills and boundaries. I feel I may be able to take a crack at this down the road with more models under my belt, but I just don't know enough about the SDTcock to make heads or tails to say yes right now.

    That being said, working on the Dragon cock is going really well and I'm looking forward to it's eventual release. I think that you will find perhaps it will suit your needs for Bowser just fine, but a special color-baked version might need to get whipped up for character ease I suppose. This is what the linework looks like so far ^_^ (Continuing with RGBA, it will be a custom two or three-color scheme based on some of the gradient blocking you see here, all Loader tab controlled + HisSkInterface)
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    Yes, it will also have little knobby bump things strategically placed along the segments.
    Also this will be at least a month if not two to completion.
     
  14. Woo Bee

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    Looks good! I'll definitely be interested in seeing that on Bowser (and some futas...and maybe some male dragon-kins) when it's done. :grin:

    I appreciate your high artistic standards and your unwillingness to tackle SDT's thorny scaling dilemma in the foreseeable future - I did some poking around a couple nights ago thinking "Surely such a penis mod exists!", and then poking around thinking "Well, surely making my own penis mod couldn't be that difficult!", and then drinking myself to sleep, so I can begin to understand the complexities you're facing. If nothing else, consider me cheering you on from the sidelines as you build up your skillset.

    I've included the first draft of my animtools position file I use for hyper-cocking if you want to see what I'm talking about, and I assure you that SDT holds together remarkably well when pushed so far, there's just this one nagging problem that only an artist can solve. The lip bounding code works just fine at these extremes (let's just say that lipstick didn't get there with the horsecock that small :wink:); I only noticed an initial mouth seam when the horsecock wasn't flesh-colored, and it disappeared past the head; also, seeing the girls flung around at ridiculous speeds in pursuit of more extreme deepthroating is the kind of thing that would be hilarious to me if it ever managed to stop being so. damned. hot. :tongue: If I wanted my porn to be realistic I'd go watch real porn!
     

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  15. Faceless

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    What might work is replacing the vanilla penis outright with a custom penis that behaves normally until some threshold, at which point the far third or so of the penis squishes as the length continues to increase.
     

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  16. Woo Bee

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    Glad to see other folks interested in pushing the limits of SDT's penis rendering. :grin: I agree that a programmatic solution would be ideal, but I question if that's even worth the effort - it occurs to me that the extreme limits of the PenisRange mod are already at the outside of values that make any sense (girth can't even get to halfway up the slider without incurring unacceptable lip seams (though I would download an UnhingeJaw mod), and pushing the length any further would start pushing the actors out of the frame), meaning a competent artist could probably cover every conceivable use case just by making a Huge penis and a separate Hyper penis designed strictly to look good in the middle third and far third of the length slider - if they look squished at less ridiculous lengths, just use the default penis? I'm not suggesting this is a trivial task nor do I expect any artists to jump to it, just that I can see getting what I'm after without anyone writing a line of code (and the programmatic solution almost certainly requires additional art anyway).

    Of course, this art-only approach means you'd need to pick a size and stick with it when starting a scene, which is fine by me, but I'm one of several people who would really like to see a fully dynamic dickmod, flaccid-to-erect, growth related to Pleasure/Vigor/recent orgasms, etc. Chatter suggests this would be a pretty huge project with some seriously thorny concerns, but I think the only mods I want to see more are X-Ray 3.0 (suitable for use with hyper-cocks (think stomach and intestine art :tongue:) and with the "cum extension" stuff @sby suggests is achievable) and maybe a cockslapping mod. :grin:

    @Faceless, what is this .fla file? I'm a Flash newb with no interest in gaining an aptitude in AS (much rather be playing with Unity/UE4), but I tried opening this in Macromedia Flash 8.0 and got an "unexpected file format" error. Is there some tutorial handy that will walk me through examining whatever this is? Additionally, if you're interested in taking on the project of making hyper-cocks look good programmatically just for fun (or if you want to spearhead the larger dynamic dickmod project), perhaps we should start a new thread and let everyone get back on the track of talking about horsecocks? :smile:
     
  17. stuntcock

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    Despite the name of the game, users aren't necessarily playing out oral penetration scenes. It's possible to use an oversized penis for a super-bukkake scenario, or to setup a titjob position or whatever.

    Wouldn't help much. Even if you can get the mouth to visually fit around a very wide penis, the neck won't stretch far enough. Also: modifying the face elements is unpleasant.

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    There's a trial available on the Adobe website ... but if you're not interested in learning AS3 then there's little point in installing Flash software or acquiring Flash source files. Just ask for a compiled version ( View attachment penis scale test.swf ) instead.
     
  18. Faceless

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    See, I didn't provide a compiled version because that source file isn't actually applicable as is. The vanilla penis isn't hidden, the artwork that is added is my old condom mod rather than a penis, and the threshold is far too low (because I can't be bothered to install the range extender just to test this). The idea was to simply provide a framework that someone else can take adapt for actual production.
     
  19. lemurian-seed

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    Thanks @Faceless, it's quite a novel Idea...I am afraid those kind of shenanigans will mess with the game's understanding of where the Tip actually is, at greater tween'd levels the cum might not come out in the right place anymore, right? ...like coming out of a hole in the fabric of reality, instead of an urethra ^_^
     
  20. Faceless

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    Hm, that's a good point. You could probably adjust the spawn point on the fly, but this is honestly such a niche thing that I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble of figuring out how to do so.