I couldn't figure out where to put this since I think this would span more than just video games, but video games are my favorite form of media and most commonly are the ones compared to each other (crossover games like Smash, Playstation All-Stars, etc, I'm looking at you). This is actually a discussion I tend to like doing despite thinking the idea of it is kinda dumb in the first place since different universes almost always have different standards of what "strong" is. In another topic, the RWBY's Yang vs FFVII's Tifa Death Battle was brought up as a ryona video (and is completely relevant there) but, a few posts later, it started moving off-topic from ryona videos on video hosting websites. So in an effort to keep that topic on-topic, I made this topic here. What would everyone here say is the way to go about comparing characters of two different universes, what characters would you like to see compared in some way, and would anyone like to have a (civil) discussion to these sorts of situations (meaning coming up with our own cheap little Death Battle that's more discussion and debate than people "researching" and placing their findings.) Starting off, I'd like to respond to this post by Thief In regards to the Sol vs Ragna one, I would argue that Ragna would win with the conditions they allowed. They allowed Ragna access to Black Beast, something that has canonically only been taken down by 6 already over powered Heroes on top of an army humans wielding magic powers created from the Black Beast's own powers to kill it. Sol is very powerful in his universe but he can still be beaten. Their logic saying that "the Black Beast is smaller than the biggest thing Sol has destroyed in one punch, so therefore Sol can blow up the Black Beast in one hit" tells me that atoms are the easiest thing in the world to break. If that were the case, the world would not exist as it does now. As for the Cloud vs Link, I really don't know what they were thinking there aside from "we like Link more than Cloud" because a lot of things could be argued against Link even with his entire arsenal. For one thing, they ignored basic physics (blocking does not negate all damage unless you have some vibration proof shield which Link most definitely does not have) and Cloud has demonstrated superhuman strength on several occasions. It could also be argued that the Golden Gauntlets do not technically give Link super strength as he does not gain the ability to block attacks he normally couldn't, do more damage with melee weapons, or push things faster. It would be safer to say it makes it easier for him to lift things (which is far sillier, more limited, and makes more sense with the changes that the Golden Gauntlets do). Anyways, long post. If this is irrelevant or in the wrong place, please delete and/or move.