Fighting games for us ryona fans are a blessing in disguise, since it's arguably the best means of watching a female receive pain over and over while being subtly different each time. According to our poll, the majority of members here prefer to have their character receive pain from CPU-controlled characters, but unfortunately the AI rarely helps us enjoy the most that the opposing fighters have to offer, and finding another human being willing to beat up your character for ryona purposes is, to say the least, extremely rare. For the world at large, though, fighting games are just games played for entertainment ; the vast majority of console players will have played and enjoyed a classic fighting game like Tekken or Street Fighter. So my question to you is, have you ever taken advantage of that fact? For example, have you ever played a fighting game with a friend of yours, often choosing a female character and reveling as your opponent smashed her to a pulp without him/her even noticing that you actually enjoyed it? Speaking for myself, it's something I do quite often, ever since middle school. My best friend at the time was not exactly the brightest person you've ever met. Furthermore, when we played Tekken 3 I could beat him quite easily. But when he first chose a female character (for some reason he avoided them for a very long time) in the spur of the moment I selected a female character as well and allowed him to win, causing him to choose her again, and win again. Afterwards I started playing defensively against him, blocking most of his attacks and grabbing him whenever I got a chance, verbally praising the power of grabs as I did. This "trick" worked like a charm, and before long he'd perform grabs on my character all the time ; he even came up with ways to grab my character in lots of different situations. After being grabbed I always got up by rolling towards him, so he learned to time it so that he grabbed me the instant my character got back on her feet, making my character seem so helpless as she received her opponent's grabs again and again. Since I'm an avid f/f fan, whenever he chose a male character, I'd time it so that I avoided his grabs at the last instant and counter-grab, rationalising that since the female characters are faster in all fighting games, I had much more trouble coping with their attacks, but I could still win against slower characters. I still fondly remember him sticking to female characters from then on and winning all the time against me with grabs, grabs, grabs... marking some of my all-time best ryona memories :-) Nowadays I haven't found anyone else whom I could "persuade" to play against me like that (although surprises do exist, the best was when a female friend of mine said to me, just prior to beginning that game, "I'm sorry I'll disappoint you but I only select female fighters..." ). Nevertheless, when playing against opponents who aren't as good players as myself, I still play the "I can't cope well against fast characters" card whenever they select a female fighter (with me conveniently also choosing a female one) and use grabs all the time in order to make them feel good when they grab me themselves. This either doesn't work or works very well depending on the individual. Accordingly, when playing against opponents on my level or higher, I make my character intentionally vulnerable to grabs (ie standing still and blocking when in close range) and they hardly ever miss the chance (that does mean I lose more times than I would otherwise, but ask me if I care :-P ). Newer great games like SoulCalibur 4 and Dead Or Alive 4 which feature voluptuous but deadly ladies have helped me immensely, since most of my friends enjoy performing their sexy grabs, even if they do it just for laughs. So back to my original question, how many of you have tried / have contemplated / have rejected this path?