Why are you into the zako theme? (1 Viewer)

[Amazon Shark]

I'm curious as to how everyone here came to realize they like zakos, and when did you realize?

For me, when I was really young, I watched Power Rangers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles a lot, especially the first 2 TMNT movies from the early 90s. I liked the idea of the "putties" from Power Rangers, or the "Foot Soldiers" from TMNT, and I recall having a dream back then where there was a fight between a hero, and putties, the putties were actually female friends of mine in the putty outfit, and they fought the hero, were defeated, most were KO'd, and they were all caught in a net and couldn't get out.

As for the WHY? part of it, I don't really know, all I know is I thought it was hot to imagine female fighters, similarly dressed, being defeated by the hero, who doesn't give them a second glance, because they are expendable hench(wo)men.

When I was a little older, I got the first TMNT movie on DVD, and I would imagine the foot soldiers as girls I knew from school (even though they were dudes in the movie, I somehow got over that aspect).

Years later, I kind of forgot about all of that, and it wasn't until a few years ago, while looking through boards like EvilBabes and Deadskirts that I found some scenes with actual zako henchwomen (Million Eyes of Sumuru, Amazons vs Supermen), as well as discovering the Female Combatant series from Zen-Pictures. When I discovered Zen-Pictures, it was like a dream come true, as they were dressed similarly to the putty or Foot Soldiers. The rest is recent history.

Once I found this site over a year ago, my zako collection has doubled, at least. So thanks everyone, for your contributions. Now how did you come to realize you enjoy zako?

 

[NNin]

Because of many anime and games. But mostly games.

When I was young, I think female zako are more enjoyable to fight with in games. Because many of them got quit a moves and looks, such as Poison. (What? It's he? XD) Many of them are also challenging.
I think it's Tenchu kunoichi zako that brought me into this. They can fight quite well but beatable. They are skilled enough to defeat you even in 1-on-1 though, especially in Tenchu 2 which AI got somewhat button reading ability at highest difficult.

While zako disposal and body pile are good. A scene when they can be a match is more attractive me.

 

[Kimblis]

My interest in zako stemmed originally from games, but has since branched out, especially to live-action zako.

Games featured the first zako I was exposed to. I think games continue to offer the widest variety of zako and the most creative scenarios for encountering and defeating those zako. (Just think of "Crazy Fight", a game I found and posted recently in the action game thread, where you send cute female criminals flying with blasts from a shoulder-mounted grenade launcher).

Also, games put you in control of the action, but under certain constraints from the developers. It became interesting to me when developers created a game with female enemies, and the only way to progress in the game was to ruthlessly eliminate those female enemies. It seemed like many games put the player in situations that encouraged defeating those female enemies using quite brutal methods, while being completely casual about it.

Examples of the casual ruthlessness abound.
However, the first example I remember, and the first female zako I remember, was probably the whip zako from Vendetta/Crime Fighters 2. I was a little kid in an arcade, watching several older kids play this beat-em up game, and one of the enemies was a blonde whip lady in skimpy clothes. I remember the two players ganging up on her, one holding her from behind while the other punched her, and then when she collapsed to the ground, she started wiggling her ass, so the players then did ground attacks until she stopped moving. Then they continued with the level.
I made some gifs/sprite edits. XD I guess it went something like this:


I also vaguely remember playing Double Dragon for Sega Genesis as a kid. Somehow we found out that if you backed the Linda enemy into a corner, she could not get out or fight back, and thus you could punch her continually to rack up points and eventually gain an extra life. Thus my friend and I would each gain an extra life from punching Linda in the first level, then finish her off and move on.

Soozie/Garnet from Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle is the first female enemy I remember who did not have the whip/dominatrix theme going...she was just a regular enemy, much like the male enemies, and she was treated no differently. She shows up on the first level and throughout the game, and the players are expected to be just as brutal to her as they are to any other enemies. In fact, it seemed to me that by giving her a punk style (rather than the more classically feminine styles of Blaze or Electra), the developers seemed to encourage the players to view her as just a regular enemy to be ruthlessly disposed of. And there were plenty of opportunities to attack Soozie/Garnet with weapons, or throw her from high places, etc.
No Soozie/Garnet gifs yet...sorry, I'm all giffed out this weekend.

Anyway, as I said my interest has branched out, and is now more on live-action zako. But I still like zako from games, because the scenarios and variety are interesting and fun to think about.

 

[TheCrimsonRisk]

I also vaguely remember playing Double Dragon for Sega Genesis as a kid. Somehow we found out that if you backed the Linda enemy into a corner, she could not get out or fight back, and thus you could punch her continually to rack up points and eventually gain an extra life. Thus my friend and I would each gain an extra life from punching Linda in the first level, then finish her off and move on.

So you're saying that ryona saves lives? Good to know.

Loved all those gifs too, great post!

 

[mm_mml]

the players then did ground attacks until she stopped moving.

Do you have a better gif of that?

 

[horatiojones80]

I've seen a lot of movies and played a lot of games where guys get taken out by the 100s. I guess it's somewhat refreshing to see it happen to women, especially when the protag is a woman as well, not that i in any way like violence against women in real life, but in fantasy a nice break from the typical fantasy cliche's. I mean i'm sure there are women that watch action movies and have a similar response.

I think it started with the game True Crime Streets of LA where you had to fight those strippers. Also that scene in Paycheck where Uma Therman takes out the body double and you get a great shot of the girls butt while she's down. I posted this in the original zako thread.

 

[Stuelpner_Karl]

Sumuru, Amazons vs Supermen, Armour of Gods, as well as, for male Zako, Black Belt Jones.

But several years before watching any of these, I saw Sexmission:

As far as I remember, I didn't really care for the plot, even though it's not a "bad movie". (Produced in communist Poland, it's pretty clever, if you read between lines.)

But for me it had some stuff I like to this day, including the style of their uniforms and scenes like a group of stick-wielding riot cops being overpowered or a couple of guards outsmarted, relieved of their uniforms, tied up rather tight to be discovered by an angry superior.

A lot was left to fantasy, not really shown, but it was good nonetheless.

 

[Amazon Shark]

^ That sounds really good. Can you provide clips from Sexmisssion? Also, Armour of Gods? I don't know what that is.

 

[Stuelpner_Karl]

^ That sounds really good. Can you provide clips from Sexmisssion? Also, Armour of Gods? I don't know what that is.

Sex Mission | Trailer 1 von 1
Search for "Sexmisja"! (I don't know if the complete movie is online somewhere.)

 

[isidore]

there a long time ago , when I was younger , I saw in a movie péplum called " Hercules against the Amazons ." It was the first time I discovered that women could be warriors . Still had it that these women either " badgirls " to be fought by men. From that day I began to search for movies, TV shows, comics and games in which women warriors were defeated after a victorious battle that suggested their evil intentions! Since these women have become Zakos but the scenario that interest me are always the same . I prefer fighting M / F but possibly with a sense of reality. To compensate for the greater strength of men , girls have must be more numérous , a report of 3/1 seems to be egalitarian , and a ratio of 5/1 can give a much more difficult fight , it must be that males have a little difficulty ! in my mind all this is of course that of fantasy , I formally condemns violence against women
my favorites film " supermen against the amazons " in which there is the best "body pile " of Amazons in the history of cinema, outside of this film sequence , it is unfortunate that most of the fighting with the Amazons are made with male stunt. My favorite game is "return to castle wolfenstein" in which there is very sexy "SS Girls" to eliminated and my favorite comics are comics published in France during the years 70/80 "Gold Boy" where the hero fights against an evil babes and Zakos whose hero make a fairly large consumption!

 

[battlevampiress]

Well....welll.....I can't quite remember what actually started it, but I do remember evil henchwomen from one Episode of the cartoon show Odysseus 31. I was already into the theme by then, but of course I didn't know.

I wonder, are Zakos always EVIL? I ask, because one of the most vivid scenes from a live action movie is the beginning of Red Sonja, where a group of priestesses is slaughtered by the raiders of the sorceress Gedren. They all wear rather skimpy armor and there are some bloody (but not overly bloody) deaths in this big combat scene, right at the beginning of the movie.
I do consider this scene in the same vein as other Zako scenes, because in the end these priestesses / amazons are unimportant characters, fighters and dressed in a fashion that makes them easily recognizable as a group.

 

[Stuelpner_Karl]

I wonder, are Zakos always EVIL?

In the final battle of Sumuru, scores of male cops are mowed down and neither their superior charges nor the heros seem to care at all. (Stuff like this also happens in many Hong Kong action movies.)

Cops are GOOD Zakos in many movies, not just in Asia. They often have typical Zako features, as they act not really smart, so one skilled fighter can take them out by the dozen. Many times the villains kill the men and women who try to protect a witness, the hero kills the villains, the witness can testify against the evil leader, then move on to the happy end with the hero and nobody thinks of those who gave their life again.

 

[Amazon Shark]

I think Zako are usually evil, but there are exceptions. Xena: Warrior Princess episode "From Helicon and Back" is a great example. I still have to upload that one soon. I prefer when they're evil though.

 

[sindragoon]

I'm curious as to how everyone here came to realize they like zakos, and when did you realize?

For me, when I was really young, I watched Power Rangers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles a lot, especially the first 2 TMNT movies from the early 90s. I liked the idea of the "putties" from Power Rangers, or the "Foot Soldiers" from TMNT, and I recall having a dream back then where there was a fight between a hero, and putties, the putties were actually female friends of mine in the putty outfit, and they fought the hero, were defeated, most were KO'd, and they were all caught in a net and couldn't get out.

As for the WHY? part of it, I don't really know, all I know is I thought it was hot to imagine female fighters, similarly dressed, being defeated by the hero, who doesn't give them a second glance, because they are expendable hench(wo)men.

When I was a little older, I got the first TMNT movie on DVD, and I would imagine the foot soldiers as girls I knew from school (even though they were dudes in the movie, I somehow got over that aspect).

Years later, I kind of forgot about all of that, and it wasn't until a few years ago, while looking through boards like EvilBabes and Deadskirts that I found some scenes with actual zako henchwomen (Million Eyes of Sumuru, Amazons vs Supermen), as well as discovering the Female Combatant series from Zen-Pictures. When I discovered Zen-Pictures, it was like a dream come true, as they were dressed similarly to the putty or Foot Soldiers. The rest is recent history.

Once I found this site over a year ago, my zako collection has doubled, at least. So thanks everyone, for your contributions. Now how did you come to realize you enjoy zako?

Glad I am not the only one into putties especially the Z putties. Their chest armors look like bras and i like the way they squirm around when defeated. I also like the fact that hey have no belts which reveal their shapes better than many female combatants zakos that have giant belts around them. I also like that their masks do not reveal their eyes giving them a more canon-fodder appearance.

I saw others posting stuffs about liking putties such as pictures and even sexual fantasies. Here is some pics of female putties
https://www.google.com/search?q=wom...oVChMI0NzV68jNyAIVhloeC#imgrc=3tLnH1QAEj1-8M:

Random - Z Putty Meets Her Fate - Sexyamazons.com Art - Female combat, Death fetish, Amazon battle

 

[Kargan3033]

Well for me I'm starting to warm up to Zako, it was never a big draw for me most of my life but it's nice to see that not all of society puts women up on petstals and that women can be considered to be *Bad Guys(Gals)* in droves like men.

I think one of the reasons for my growing intrest in Zako is because of an older Warhammer 40,000 RTS game called Dawn Of War:Soul Storm that has the Sisters Of Battle as not only a playable faction but also an enemy faction which can rack up body piles(of a sort) if you turn on the persistent bodies option in the game.

 

[ran]

When I was a kid, I watched many action movies/games. I felt excited sometimes but got bored that most females in it are protagonists (and their performance is pretty much the same!). Gradually I felt men and women should be equal, usually way more cameras focus on female fighters than male, which is not right. I think when a female fighter is defeated/killed, she should not be emphasized more than male instead of adding close-ups and music for her.
Later, while I saw some arcade games like Denjin Makaii 2, I realized it is female zako I want.

 

[Aderblk]

Like some of you, I became fascinated with zakos through beat em up video games in the 90s.

It was just the juxtaposition of social norms. Just seeing beautiful fictional women being treated like garbage was somehow exhilarating to me, especially when they were more attractive then the female protagonists. And like Kimblis said, also the fact that the game developers force you to defeat them in order to progress through the game. There's no way to show them mercy, the same moves your characters perform on the male baddies you do on the zakos, there's no holding back.

Eventually, I discovered the anime Agent Aika. The Black Delmo fight scene in the first episode was amazing and I found myself focused much much more on the Delmo villians than the good guys. From that point on, I knew I had a thing for henchwomen and continued to search for more. :)

 

[Weoooo]

I've thought about this and I think it comes down to the notion of expendability.

To be frank, as far as Zako go I get a feeling so complicated. I'm excited to see defeat, but I don't want them to be seriously hurt. I love seeing surrender, but a very strong protection instinct kicks in, too. I don't like explicit death or gore, but I love seeing sprawled bodies all over the place and non-explicit death doesn't exactly kill my mood.
What I came to realize is that's kinda like a damsel in distress fantasy. What's enticing isn't the girl on the railroad tracks getting hit by the train, it's that she's on the tracks. It's an infinite "could" moment, evoking voyeuristic and heroic feelings at once. For me, a Zako is, by her very nature, in peril. She exists to be defeated, and every moment is setup to that eventual encounter with danger. I don't want to see her die cause, well, I don't like it when people die. But I love the buildup to that confrontation of danger and the moment that it happens, because no matter what the zako was, in that moment she is helpless; same as any other damsel in any other distress.

There's also a real fantasy in the zako of availability. That's a very common idea in any porn; these girls(your hairdresser, your maid, your next-door neighbor, wow what a hot bhabhi) want to fuck you. But a core conceit of the zako as they're presented is that there's literal armies of beautiful women attacking the hero. And like... you know... one of them's GOTTA be down, right?

 

[KeiBree]

Interesting thread. I think I come at it from a slight different way than men since for me growing up I didn't consume the same media that most of you probably did. Never really got into games or anime. Most of my knowledge on these zakos is from this board, or youtube.

Not entirely sure how it started, always liked "dressing up" but was from a conservative home, so "sexy" costumes at halloween were always off limits (which is why I was drawn to that aspect as anyone who RP's with me knows :P). We only had one TV, so I would be stuck watching my brother play video games or watching some of the movies referenced here (although he wasn't a "geek" so it was limited). I remember seeing the women in the beat'em up games and kind of imagining myself as one (might be because there weren't other characters).

That stuck with me a bit, but didn't "trigger" the obsession. I started dating someone and we discussed a lot of kinks we both shared. The costumes/role playing was big. Same with forced/submissive stuff. This eventually led to us getting me a lot of various costumes. Not all of them worked with as a roleplay we were interested (I remember Red Riding Hood in particular since we didn't want to roleplay in that world/story) so that evolved into kind of batman style henchwomen... and you get the idea.

Later after that relationship was over, I found these types of communities... which kind of made the whole thing blow up. This was maybe 15 years ago, so it was more limited then, but I do remember discovering Agent Aika's delmos online and that kind of focused things into "Zako".

So for me it's a combination of other kinks (sub, humiliation, snuff) and uniforms/costumes/outfits. The idea of making a poor decision in joining a group, being treated terribly, holding a gun I'm terrible with, being scared, taken out and tossed away. Just might be a combination of things for me :)

Edit: expanded a bit.

 

[smthng]

Mine started with that Red Sonja movie. Because of that scene I have both zako and snuff fetish. Those priestesses and delmo girls are my favourite.