Hi all, not sure if this is allowed but thought Id post here. I know there's a undertow server but we also have pretty active discord server dedicated to female villains/zakos if you would like to join. Join the Female Villains and Zakos Discord Server!
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What you posted does not violate any site rules.
Link to site rules is in my siggie.Very respectfully,
fleet (global moderator)
Server owner here - Cheese, you were kicked 4 times for inactivity and each time I let you back in asking you to be an active member. The server onboarding process is extremely clear that it's not a server for lurkers. Here is your entire post history since you've joined.
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horatiojones80
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Got banned because I didn't post for a few days or something, not worth it. Not really sure what they expect. I don't post about zako every day. I have stuff to do IRL.
Just to clarify a few points:
Low-effort posts (e.g., single emojis or “just posting to stay active”, "nice!" messages) don’t count toward activity requirements. The intent behind the rules isn’t to inflate engagement metrics—it’s to promote a genuine, active community where people share and contribute.
That said, participation is a choice. Everyone is free to explore the server, review the onboarding info, and decide if it’s a good fit for them. I understand this setup isn’t for everyone, and that’s completely okay.
That said, the reason there’s so much noise from people who’ve been removed is because the server is active with high quality post from a variety of great users. If the server really sucked, no one would care about being kicked. I encourage anyone reading this to check out the server themself if they have not already - I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Low-effort posts (e.g., single emojis or “just posting to stay active”, "nice!" messages) don’t count toward activity requirements. The intent behind the rules isn’t to inflate engagement metrics—it’s to promote a genuine, active community where people share and contribute.
That said, participation is a choice. Everyone is free to explore the server, review the onboarding info, and decide if it’s a good fit for them. I understand this setup isn’t for everyone, and that’s completely okay.
That said, the reason there’s so much noise from people who’ve been removed is because the server is active with high quality post from a variety of great users. If the server really sucked, no one would care about being kicked. I encourage anyone reading this to check out the server themself if they have not already - I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
horatiojones80
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Nah I'm just trying to save people the disappointment of having to deal with some power tripping moderator with an inflated sense of self worth and a weird gamified system of enforced daily engagement that's not far off from the slop being pumped out by the video game industry lately (do your daily achievements bro)
You seem to have a very grave misunderstanding on what participation is. Lurking is actually good. Lurking is how you learn the culture of a community before you start posting. I lurked here for months before I started posting.
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Hey. I understand your frustration, but disagree on "power tripping moderator with an inflated sense of self worth". I post my content on the server and I sincerely believe Joanne is trying to boost engagement to actually make the sever more 'engaging' for the community. It is quite quite active (lot more so since that engagement rules), with highly targeted villainess content and not a lot of off-topic stuff. I appreciate that.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective. I hear your frustration and I’ll respond as clearly and respectfully as I can.
To clarify, users are not removed for simply “not posting daily.” Removals typically occur after one month or more of inactivity, and only after several reminders via onboarding, pings, and messages. The policy exists to support a sustainable and engaged community, not to enforce rigid posting quotas. I looked at your own removal and saw that we sent you a DM inviting you to rejoin if you wanted to be active.
While I understand that lurking can feel like a way to learn the culture of a space, our internal data doesn’t support the idea that long-term lurking leads to meaningful participation here. In fact, the server was mostly inactive from its launch in 2023 until February 2025, when we introduced the current structure. Since then, we’ve seen a significant shift in activity — including from members who had been quietly present and only began engaging after the policy went into effect. That’s the pattern we’ve seen repeatedly. Anyone here can scroll through the channels and see this trend for themself.
This system won’t resonate with everyone, and that’s totally fine. But it has helped create a more consistent, collaborative space for those who choose to engage. I genuinely wish you the best in finding a community that aligns better with your expectations.
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Please continue the above discussion via private message, as it is of limited interest to undertow dot club members. This is starting to go off the rails. Thread locked.
Very respectfully,
fleet (global moderator)
Very respectfully,
fleet (global moderator)
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