As a non-native English speaker, I never thought much of the word "undertow" other than being a cool name in general for a forum. But the other day, I was reading the wikipedia article for Hellraiser (for some reason) and I stumbled on the following quote from Clive Barker in 1987: "Well, we did have a slight problem with the eroticism. I shot a much hotter flashback sequence than they would allow us to cut in.... Mine was more explicit and less violent. They wanted to substitute one kind of undertow for another. I had a much more explicit sexual encounter between Frank and Julia, but they said no, let's take out the sodomy and put in the flick knife." So obviously, Barker uses "undertow" as an umbrella term for shady practices in sex and violence, which is exactly what this forum is about! I tried googling it, even in the urban dictionary, but could find no on-line definition of the word that implied this use of the term. So what gives? Is this the intended meaning behind the forum name, and is it a slang term that largely died out during the 90s and is no longer used much, or what?