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Request for an expert's opinion?

Discussion in 'Dialogue' started by Curious, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Curious

    Curious Potential Patron

    Oct 1, 2011
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    Well, it's been a while, huh? Three years later, I've got a new dialogue in the making. In writing terms, I think it's pretty much done. In coding, however, I'm sure it can use work. I used the Pim_gd's checker, but the 'continue' phase where it progresses into facefucking and the restart lines where she eventually goes ahegao don't always trigger, which is a pain. Also, I feel like it progresses too quickly to brutality when it's supposed to have a bit of a slower build up, but I'm uncertain how to do that well through coding. I've read the guides, but so far haven't had much luck in experimentation. I pretty much need these things spelled out as you would to a five-year old.

    Any tips from the experts?

    Also, I should note for anyone who downloads that this is another fairly brutal one. If you aren't into nonconsent and abuse, it's probably safer not to click.

    Thanks for any help!

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  2. ModGuy

    ModGuy Club Regular Content Creator

    Feb 17, 2011
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  3. jase

    jase Avid Affiliate

    Jun 4, 2014
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    For expert examples, you should listen to Max Hardcore and Anabolic; porn producers and performers who know how to degrade actresses. Love them or hate them, at least your producer character won't be so flat.
  4. AaRL

    AaRL Swell Supporter

    Feb 17, 2011
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    Hardly an expert but this is what I suggest... Download various dialogues both large and small from various members. Get to see their style and use of triggers and HER movements. Your dialouge doesnt have any. Also, use this as a guide if you dont have the notes already:

    [ARMS_BACK] - Positions her arms behind her back.
    [ARMS_LEGS] - Positions her arms on her legs.
    [ARMS_HIS_LEGS] - Positions her arms on his legs.
    [ARMS_LOOSE] - Causes her arms to hang loose.
    [ARMS_HAND_JOB] - Switches to hand job.
    [TAP_HANDS] - She taps her hands on her/his legs, as she does when held down for too long.
    [FACE_FUCK_STYLE] - Switches to Face Fuck style, a different base position
    [NORMAL_STYLE] - Switches back to Normal style
    [HOLD] - He grabs her head.
    [RELEASE] - He releases her head.
    [LOOK_UP] - She looks up at him and continues to do so.
    [LOOK_DOWN] - She looks "down" and continues to do so (more forward than down).
    [CLOSE_EYES] - She closes her eyes.
    [OPEN_EYES] - She opens her eyes.
    [BLINK] - She blinks.
    [WINCE] - She briefly shuts her mouth and furrows her brow.
    [SHOCK] - She briefly makes a wide-eyed, surprised expression.
    [SWALLOW] - She swallows, preventing speech and penetration until the animation finishes.
    [CLENCH_TEETH] - She clenches her teeth for a while, preventing speech and penetration until the animation finishes.
    [COUGH] - She coughs, and the game inserts cough text.
    [ADD_TEARS] - She tears, though it takes a while to show typically.
    [EJACULATE] - He cums immediately.
    [DROOL] - She drools a cum-like substance whether she "actually" has it in her mouth or not.

    Those are the up to date basic triggers for basic dialogue writings. The"Б" serves as short pause in the dialogue but does not show in game. Only in a text editor. By adding triggers, you make the dialogue that much better and more believable. Scanning quickly, I see you only have a handful of triggers. So if she got in [FACE_FUCK_STYLE], she stays in that forever regardless what line plays. So you could come across a line where she talks normal or timid, mean while he isnt holding her and shes in an "unreal" position. Also this "[RESET_RESIST]" trigger... Ive never come across this one. Where did you get this from and does it work?!
  5. Pim_gd

    Pim_gd Swell Supporter

    Jan 25, 2013
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    [RESET_RESIST] is a trigger, part of DA.

    -- [RESET_RESIST] - Resets her resistance. May cause first_dt, first_throat and intro lines to trigger again. Change resistances with charcode loading.
  6. Curious

    Curious Potential Patron

    Oct 1, 2011
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    Thanks, guys! I'll try finding some of those videos and checking out a few other dialogues to see where I can improve. I've been using examples, but I haven't really figured out the coding bits necessary for progression yet, which I'm hoping to find. For example, is there a way I can guarantee that a certain line will run, even if her mouth is full of cock, or if several lines overlap as they unfortunately tend to with 'cum' triggers? Even using 'thought' and 'him' modes for the progression lines so they don't get cut out, they don't always seem to progress as they should. (The progression lines basically being the 'Continues' and the finish that makes the girl ahegao.)

    Also, I do wholly plan on adding triggers and actions, I just wanted to figure out the skeletal coding first before complicating things. The more symbols in a dialogue, the more I have trouble reading it. But, I definitely intend to add them. (;

    As for [RESET_RESIST], it's just as Pim_GD said. I read somewhere it could be used alongside [RELEASE] to force her off the cock so she can say a line, regardless of a player's actions, but sadly it hasn't worked that way for me. It does reset her resistance, though, from what I've seen.

    Thanks again! Any other tips?