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Jewelry set

Discussion in 'Invalid Requests' started by mattsweet, May 25, 2015.

  1. mattsweet

    mattsweet Potential Patron

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    Hi, I'd to request a Bracelet And Necklace. Color should be silver and gold.

    Here some references pics:
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  2. VincentL

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    I like the idea very much, would like to see it implemented if someone was brave enough.
     
  3. aztlan

    aztlan Swell Supporter

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    I suspect that profile shots of the jewelry being worn would be much more useful.
     
  4. mattsweet

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    here another pics:
    http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/Veronica+Siwik+Daniels+Joslyn+James+Poses+ChElGj6btFLl.jpg
    http://sherly.mobile9.com/download/media/210/torylane_adacihhx.jpg
    http://y2.pichunter.com/2222425_7.jpg
    http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/dedeandro/default/samantha-ryan--large-msg-134486157484.jpg
    http://www.nastypornostars.com/gals/tory_lane_naked_floor/zSCP118100_00.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/onxmyxtoes/tiffany003.jpg
    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2b/03/99/2b03990e006aa920c1f2c548da816918.jpg
    http://s3-media1.fl.yelpassets.com/bphoto/BpG1mKcvA8pBKtkc0BKmBA/l.jpg

    Here gold version pics:
    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQj2lsTxEI-zbMpQmzmp7BAZ9VpTmfSkv_yzuMSZL2FNwBtdhbWaA
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDD7noMWMAATppy.jpg
    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJF5Oq3gPne4ems_c2Zf6peAfz1XcSFJF9xoQIwT0VHXP8AukiTA
     
  5. aztlan

    aztlan Swell Supporter

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    Profile!
     
  6. stuntcock

    stuntcock Club Regular Staff Member Moderator

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    In this case, the admonition may not work:

    We have enough images to establish the fitting of the necklace - it's not quite a choker but it isn't long enough to trace out the contour lines of the collarbones and breasts. The frontal elements are heavy enough to pull the necklace into a teardrop/pendant shape. The chain links themselves would look similar from any angle (here's a slightly higher-resolution reference image, just in case). I think that we have enough artwork to fulfill the Request, but at present I wouldn't consider it worthwhile.

    The main problem is that the item is designed to be seen face-on. Front views show a teardrop shape which emphasizes the slenderness of the neck, and which can complement the neckline of the wearer's outfit. From the front, we're also presented with a visual puzzle: the heart medallion is clearly ornamental and ought to be the focus, yet it lacks any adornment, filigree, or gilding. The eye is instead pulled towards the simple and functional toggle clasp. The jeweler chose to put the clasp in plain view. When combined with the large chain links and the engraving on the medallion (not to mention the soft clinking noises made by the chain links), the overall impression is that of a pet's collar rather than a woman's necklace. Yet it's obviously a fashionable design intended for public display (rather than kinky sex games in somebody's basement). It's a puzzle, which excites the imagination.

    When viewed from the side, these details are obscured. Edge-on, the heart medallion becomes a line segment (or a foreshortened blob). The toggle clasp is partially hidden behind the shoulder/collarbone, and the perspective inhibits the viewer from understanding its purpose at first glance -- the toggle closure would be a distorted oval rather than a circle. There's no immediate indication that this item is a sterling silver necklace rather than a steel bondage accessory. And an SDT user who's interested in bondage gear would probably want a "pet collar" which fits more tightly.



    The bracelet is more feasible than the necklace, because we can arbitrarily rotate it so that the interesting details are presented face-on to the viewer. But then we run into a new problem: the SDT girl's wrist is very thin. If we shrink the bracelet to fit (e.g. 5-6 chain links visible when the wrist is seen edge-on) then the toggle and heart medallion may be too small to discern at normal zoom levels. If we make the bracelet much larger (so that it dangles from the wrist) then the visibility problem is solved but we'd need to apply physics -- a static dangling bracelet would look absurd.



    VincentL - mattsweet may not be able to advocate for his request due to language issues. If you'd like to champion this request (e.g. suggest fitting compromises, find new reference images, etc) then I'll be happy to discuss it further.
     
  7. VincentL

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    Hm, I did some searching and it's surprisingly hard to find any decent profile pictures of necklaces.

    It seems all I can offer is just ideas/suggestions unfortunately:
    - I think it's perfectly fine if you keep it simple, with just the chain and the "attached" object being relatively simple (e.g. something like the default "Teardrop" earrings). It would be very hard to make a convincingly looking heart necklace or anything like that, and for me personally that's not even particularly important.
    - I think there are possibilites of different versions, with smaller or bigger chain links, and I think it would be better to focus variety on this part rather than the attached object.

    And just personal notes:
    - I'd be more interested in the necklace than the bracelet
    - and on a side note, I'd be also very much interested in elegant-looking collars in addition/instead.
     
  8. stuntcock

    stuntcock Club Regular Staff Member Moderator

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    Makes sense - they're intended to showcase a slender neck, bare collarbone/shoulders, and a plunging neckline. They aren't supposed to look good from the side, so few people will bother to model or photograph them in profile.

    First Google result (because I'm lazy). My main concern is that "elegant" seems to be synonymous with "narrow" - and narrowness is also a necessary consequence of "smaller chain links." There's a minimum limit on how far we can shrink an object before it becomes irreconcilable with the SDT artwork style. The viewer expects a black border wherever two layers meet (e.g. necklace-against-neck). When a chain link is <15px wide, even a 1-2px border seems too thick relative to the size of the item which it surrounds. If we make the border thinner, then the player will see a broken/incomplete outline with lots of aliasing artifacts (which are ugly and distracting).

    Many of the elegant designs also include filigrees, small gemstones, or braided metalwork - none of which would be discernible at normal zoom levels. Your suggestion re: simplicity applies here - we can skip these designs in favour of plainer ones.

    We face an additional challenge with the right shoulder -- it tends to obscure the neck. This can be partially resolved with careful fitting: we move the item higher up the neck, or skew it slightly to improve visibility.

    Gameplay also constrains the design space. We can't setup a realistically tight choker, because we must always leave room for stretching of the throat (especially around the larynx). We can compromise by fitting the item more loosely (so that it seems to "float" without any apparent skin contact) and/or by pulling it down towards the collarbone (which resolves the "floating" problem, but reduces the item's visibility).

    There's a physics-scripting technique which would allow us to simulate a reasonably-tight choker which is visibly pulled taut, and stretched as the throat expands (implying spring tension within the metal, or indentation into the skin, or both). But I really need to finish some of my ongoing projects before committing to another one. And the technique involves a "grid" structure which ought to be prototyped on a large item (e.g. skirt) for easier troubleshooting.



    With these caveats in mind, please feel free to post reference images, fitting sketches, etc... for any collar or necklace designs which ought to be considered.