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Head shrinking mod?

Discussion in 'Loader Requests' started by goldminer, Sep 4, 2015.

  1. goldminer

    goldminer Potential Patron

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    Any head shrinking mods?
     
  2. Corgalas

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    This is a mod people have been after for a while. I have a body shrinking mod that would work well with it, but shrinking the head isn't as easy as the body.

    In another thread a guy said he was working on it... Legend has it he's still not working on it... But not really.
     
  3. Zalord

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    That guy was me. I'm not working on it anymore.
     
  4. alkatraz91

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    so there is nothing working? even for try? i read that there is a mod that work only when u first load the mod loader.but can't figure how it work
     
  5. 0nymous

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    Too complicated I assume. Wouldn't be compatible with hair, ears, etc.
    Body morphing was one of the original features of SDT and I'm honestly glad that we have a mod for different thigh sizes - and that took a considerable amount of effort despite being made in a workaround way.

    Well, I'd still like to second the request ITT nevertheless. It's that or getting used to midget-like proportions on short girls.
     
  6. stuntcock

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    Why?

    This request (in various iterations) has been pending for many years. It's very unlikely that one more "I want this" vote is going to suddenly tip the balance. There's a whole bunch of hardcoded spatial offsets which would need to be replaced with relative/proportional offsets.

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    You haven't volunteered to handle this task, or even to assist in the effort. It's sometimes possible for a non-expert to offer a clever suggestion or insight which radically simplifies a complex task, but you haven't provided any such input. If someone completed the mod tomorrow, it would probably yield visual flaws when used in conjunction with many costume mods, hair mods, and body mods.

    You'd be better off if you asked for a size slider for the male character. It's been suggested before but wasn't pursued because it violated the SDTMods forum rules. It's a simpler programming task. It would present fewer compatibility hazards. Modders are less likely to be creeped out because the lolicon implications are less obvious.

    Is there some special aspect of the "make her head and body proportionally smaller" request which could not be fulfilled by a "make his body proportionally larger" implementation?
     
  7. 0nymous

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    There is, actually, since I believe the intention is not about the ratio of her body to his body, and more about the ratio of her head to her body.
    Putting the body slider on the lowest setting makes her head seem out of proportions, is all. I can't speak for the OP, though, this is what I think the main reason for this request is.

    Fair enough. Is it possible to scale down all the offsets and re-position them? By re-position I mean... move them, stitch them onto different parts in relation to her body, like putting the head lower, hiding the neck. Basically, play plastic surgeon on her face, size and location-wise?
    It seems the eyes and tongue are the biggest problems - the nose seems to scale with the head size and the ears already have an in-game small version.
    I imagine things would get all sorts of fucked up with hair, but I think it looks fine enough when the head is scaled down.


    Ha, as opposed to your implications of shotacon? I don't mean anything hostile by that, just that I fail to see the moral logic of "smaller male = more ok than smaller female."
     
  8. stuntcock

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    The proposed mod would leave her head-to-body ratio intact (ie. a natural appearance rather than a deformed appearance).

    Yes. It involves careful and somewhat-tedious work. The offset-adjustment stuff must be followed up by changes in non-obvious background code (such as calculations of penetration depth, because they make implicit assumptions about the size of the girl's mouth). The task is complicated by psychological factors - the modder knows that he is doing this work in order to fulfill a sexual fantasy which he may consider taboo or objectionable.

    There's no requirement for the slider to move downwards from its default position. It would be inconvenient to do so, because the male character lacks a head and shrinking him would tend to bring his weird unclothed neckless shoulders into view. The main goal would be to support a slider-based increase in size.

    The modder thinks to himself "I am creating a mod in which a fully-grown adult woman performs fellatio on a larger-than-usual dude." The basic concept has been done before. Here's a more recent example of "woman has sex with something much larger than herself" which carries no implication of lolicon.

    Player A could activate the mod and take it at face value: "finally, my Slender Man blowjob simulator project can proceed!"

    Player B could activate the mod, and sneakily decide "the apparently-giant dude is actually a regular-sized dude, and the woman is smaller than usual." He then fiddles with the breast slider and hairstyle to create the appearance of a young woman. He can take further steps to reinforce the fantasy scenario, such as changing the scale of the background image or loading a custom dialogue file.
     
  9. alkatraz91

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    with the file in this forum headtest i managed to make it work,and is nice,i found some hair that scale too
     
  10. pornmix

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    How did you get it to work? The hair is all screwed up, and she can't reach the dick.
     
  11. alkatraz91

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    with a base game i load first the body scale and then the head scale..and is all good..and there is some hair that scale too..with some customization in the position she can reach the cock too
     
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    Hair that scale? Not sure what you mean. Do you have an example?
     
  13. alkatraz91

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    here is an example
     

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    Thanks for replying. I'll see what I can do with the hair. Do you happen to have the animtools txt position file?
     
  15. alkatraz91

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    i have created it myself..but is not good..i have to find a way to use in animtools the bodysize mod for adjust position better instead of guessing it.
    edit:only certain hair scale with the head.like the one i have attached(is from anonymus pack).only hair with the image in the right up corner work.other details not scale.
     

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  16. pornmix

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    Thanks.
     
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