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Everlasting Summer (Бесконечное лето) VN content

Discussion in 'Invalid Requests' started by Vic47, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. Vic47

    Vic47 Potential Patron

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    I already saw a few screenshots with characters, and a few backgrounds from this VN in Loader packs, and once got a zip with several versions of hair for all the characters (some were very simple and ugly, but 2 or 3 were of the quality, equal to the "stock" SDT content) and the backgrounds could be easily ripped from the VN itself using a simple and popular among the fandom unpacing tool or script (forgot it's name, but it is really easy to find). So, can anyone find all that stuff and pack it into one archive to make a fully-featured ES (БЛ) mod for SDT, please?
     
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    I suggest you find some of that "really easy to find" stuff and link it here. Maybe, just maybe someone will pick up this request if you show some initiative.
     
  3. stuntcock

    stuntcock Club Regular Staff Member Moderator

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    This is an English-language forum. The game's code and its UI are English. The dialog editor is limited to ANSI. My keyboard can't produce Cyrillic characters, and I'm reliant on machine translation when searching for this kind of stuff.

    The best match that I can find is a set of dead links and screenshots on Russian chan boards and a few mentions on Russian forums (including a reference to a Russian torrent tracker). I managed to find one PNG hair file, but the link was broken.

    As far as I can tell, the game is a standard VN whose character portraits are mostly frontal or oblique. The profile-view stuff seems to be mostly fanart. So - as Nigida mentioned - someone will need to find this stuff and make it available to SDT artists and modders. It would then be possible to clean up the PNGs (if they're rough), complete any missing hairstyles (where references exist) and package the whole thing together into a convenient package (including backgrounds, assuming that you're able to extract them).

    Since you presumably speak Russian, you're the best candidate for the task :)
     
  4. Vic47

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    Well, yes, the game is a Visual Novel made by a group or enthusiasts from russian imageboard "2ch" http://2ch.hk/ . The game itself is very "modder-friendly", since it is runninmg on RenPy VN engine (coded on Python). http://everlastingsummer.su/en/
    The backgrounds could be automatically extracted from the game itself using a dev-made script, that is available at Steam Worksop page of the game http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=351522947 and only need to be cut to SDT resolution from the original 16:9 1080p or 720p images, and there are dozens of them, so it's alot of work (and some people may want to cut their own section of those backgrounds, so i doubt i will post all of that) The game is also available on Steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/331470/ and Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=su.sovietgames.everlasting_summer free of charge and has another (the original one) "non-steam"/pre-steam build http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4621080 (that is thought to be more advanced that teh Steam-version, and has nude character sprites and hentai CGs enabled by default (Steam and Google Play versions need hentai-patch to be installed first http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=346601625 ) and Steam version, by now, is translated to several european languages (and even has english-language side story/fanfic mods in the workshop). And since the game is born on an imageboard, there are TONS of fanart (hentai too). There is even a booru gallerey http://es.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list and a group on VK.com https://vk.com/youngpioneer with Everlasting Summer hentai art only. Although, most of websites, containing hentai are banned in Russia and i can't access those.
    I will try to dig up in my vk messenger history to find those hairstyles, but as i mentioned before, the quality is just awful (they are just some static .jpeg that move alongside with the head like they are all frozen/glued and stiff or something and has some colour artifacts (they were made on 2ch as a joke, i suppose, not for actual use in some SDT mods)
     
  5. Vic47

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    Here is what i have: all hair files i could find, 2 preview/collage images found on 2ch by someone from the ES (everlasting Summer) VK community who still has acces to 2ch, + one original background file, ripped from the game, which is used on one of the preview images.
    By the way, you can get even more backgrounds by installing mods from the Steam Workshop (as they often contain some new artwork, such as backgrounds and character sprites), so backgrounds are not the issue. If someone will manage to find/make really good hair files and configure the script, i might bother to download the game, rip and cut at least the "basic" backgrounds that are unlocked in the ingame gallerey after finishing the game @ 100%.
    But again, backgrounds are easy to get, add to SDT and should be cut according to user's personal preferences, so, i guess, those, who will need that mod already have their favourite backgrounds ready (the game has a mod that allows users to create custom scenes and play them in the game, so they are already doing stuff like SDT, using it, only without the actual intercourse - or using fanart from the es.booru for it)
     

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    Fun fact: the game's main protagonist's name is Semyon, and commonly believed that his surname is Persunov (which gets it's roots from "same person" - which is used on anonymous imageboards like 2ch when the same person post/reply twice in a row in one thread (just like i'm doing right now, lol) to replace "anonymous" nickname, but some people mistransliterate his name to English as "Semen" ) Also, all of the characters of this game are mascots of 2ch or (in case of secondary male characters Shurik and Elektronik) are main characters of popular soviet movies.

    By the way, i, obviously, don't have male characters hair files, as well as some female characters too (the secret, catgirl character UVAO (Yulya/Julia) and the perverted MILF nurse, Viola (Violetta Cernovna Collider, Cola-sensei, Collider-sama) and Miku/Masha (Miku/Maria)
    The other girl's names are Alice (Alisa Dvachevskaya), Helen (Lena), Slavya (Slavyana), Ulyana, and Olga Dmitrievna (Olga, OD, Banhammer-chan)

    But the main problem is still the clothes - Owlet (Sovyonok) pioneer camp uniform, unique swimsuits and underwear and UVAO's cat ears/tail/bandages/dress. (though, some prefer to not use clothes, i suppose the tail and bandages should still be present). OD also needs her signature white panama hat. Nurse and miku should be much easier - miku will only need new hairclips, as long as we'll have Pioneer uniform shirt and blouze. Semyon and Ulyana will also need shorts. And we'll also need Sandal for their feet (but that's optional, i guess). Could be good to have pioneer tie also, but i guess the default tie could be fine (at least, at first) if both parts will use the bright red color.
     
  7. stuntcock

    stuntcock Club Regular Staff Member Moderator

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    PNG hairstyles are "static." They can be drawn (or traced) using high visual fidelity, with soft color gradients and lots of shadow/highlight detail, but they will always move as if they were stiffly glued onto the girl's head. Therefore modders tend to use them with short-haired girls (e.g. Alisa) wherein the stiffness is less noticeable.

    If you want the hair to flick, curl, and bounce as the girl moves then you need a dynamic hair SWF. This is a more ambitious project than a static PNG; each dynamic hairstyle requires several hours of work.

    We have few modders who handle dynamic hairstyles. This is also a very niche request which has zero "Like" endorsements (perhaps because ES fans are mostly Russian first-language and aren't comfortable on this forum). Hence, it's unlikely that a modder will create a complete set of ES dynamic hair imports on their own initiative.

    If you really want dynamic hairstyles, then please say so. There's no sense in SDT artists creating high-quality PNG hairstyles for your request, if you're going to insist on full SWFs.

    In the meantime, here are some things that you can do to support your request thread and encourage modders:
    • find good reference images for the hairstyles and clothing
      • consider adding these images to your first post and organizing them so that they're easy to find
    • identify any of the previously-posted static hairstyles which you consider to be acceptable
      • in other words: which characters are "done" and which ones are still incomplete?
      • for example, I assume that Miku does not need a custom hairstyle because the standard SDT hairstyle will suffice
    • if you want dynamic hair SWFs, then you can vector-trace some of your reference images to reduce the workload for modders
    • create character codes (CharCodes) for each girl - showing the correct eye color, skin tone, breast size, mood, etc...
    • write dialog files for some or all of the characters (possibly by ripping text from the game itself)

    Don't tell us about the imports that you want; show them to us. We need Reference Images.

    Here are some that I managed to find on es.booru:

    Alisa
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    Slavya (main hair only)
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    Slavya (braids)
    [​IMG] or [​IMG]

    That sounds very silly. Allow me to paraphrase: "if a skilled modder spends dozens of hours creating high-quality hairstyles, then I will download a free game and rip some background images -- but only if someone else agrees to configure the image-ripping script."

    This is YOUR request. You should be willing to invest some work into it, in anticipation of modders becoming interested. If you aren't willing to do so, then the project is probably doomed.
     
  8. Vic47

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    Well, then i guess it is, because i'm not familliar with all that vector stuff, coding, graphical editors and all.
    And you are right - most of today's ES fans don't even know SDT exist or even played flash games more than once (apart from the "oldschool" 20 y.o.+ fans from 2ch) i know how to contact the original ES cereators, but i guess they won't bother to participate in such a project (and i really dislike the drawing style of the one of them who could). I guess there COULD be some support - even money donations as go for ES modders, but i'm a lazy person and (at least, for now) i don't feel like doing all that. maybe later, idunno. I'm also unfamilliar with 2ch, and, as far as i know, the therads there are getting wiped out very often, so i won't even bother digging in there. But maybe i'll ask in that VK ES hentai group later, if people want something like this. i could try to ask in the official ES community in VK or Steam, but i guess i'll just get banned, while VK community still hasvery few english-speaking people and Steam doesn't allow hentai stuff at all, i guess. And after all, this it is not THAT important for me to risk my VK and Steam accounts - i just thought it could be cool if there were such a mod, since i've noticed some ES backgrounds in the Loader 8 found on Pornolab, but no ES characters among like 1,5k mods in that build, of which i hardly found a dozen of characters i recognize and even less that i like. And i even play SDT maybe just a few times a year, so that's not worth so much effort for me, i guess.
    Speaking about those images you found - only the last two of them are canonical. Others are 100% fanart (including the clothes and Slavya's hair). According to the game, Slavya should have two thick, massive braids almost touching the ground. Not sure about the original 2ch mascot she was drawn from, though. For the original outfit i'd suggest sprites from the game, but as mentioned before, they are all frontal. For Miku - yes, i guess Hatsune Miku's hair will do fine (not many will notice the hairclips are slightly different). And for PNGs - i guess those hair presets which are divided in two parts are at least a little but more non-static than, for example, OD hair i uploaded - for me, that's enough. And also, i think that if there would be that panama hat model, then OD could use hair preset from some other non-ES character, with a right colour.
    Well, i'm kinda ill at the moment, so let it be as it is by now. Maybe i'll ask in that VK group later and re-organize my posts here, or create some fake accounts and ask in other places later, when i'll get better... If i won't forget, of course.
    And speaking of dialogues - i don't think they are needed at all, since on Pornolab people say they don't even work and planning to remove this feature from the Loader build that is distributed there, and most people don't use them anyway.
     
  9. stuntcock

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    Russian dialogs don't work because of how the SDT code deals with text. There's an issue with string encoding or font embedding (or possibly both). The end result is that Cyrillic isn't permitted, nor are the vast majority of extended characters -- we're basically limited to ASCII.

    This problem should be investigated more thoroughly; it can probably be fixed. Make a post here if you're interested. You may be asked to run additional diagnostics, or to assist with beta-testing of the fixed code. Many SDT modders do their coding and play-testing in an English OS environment, so they may need your help in order to reproduce and identify language-related bugs.



    By the way - it looks like most of the JPG files that you posted earlier actually originate from this post. If you use the original PNGs in place of the JPG image files, you should obtain slightly higher quality and fewer compression artifacts.

    The hairstyles will remain static, of course. Dynamic-hair animation is a separate task.
     
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  10. Vic47

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    Small update. I've found a web-version of the game on Nutaku.net , which means there could be some english-speaking fans of the game there. Also, there might be some people on that site who might donate money to people who will make content for the SDT mod with their favourite characters. Im'm not 100% sure, though, but i already know enough people who spend alot on other hentai games which Nutaku hosts.
    If i'll find some people who will wish to pay for the creation of the mod, i will post here later...